MPs in Lok Sabha on 16th August
16.08.2011
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1100 hours
(Madam Speaker in the Chair)
OBSERVATION RE: NOTICES OF ADJOURNMENT MOTION
MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I have received notices of Adjournment Motion from Sarvashri Yogi Aditya Nath and Shailendra Kumar regarding reported agitation by Shri Anna Hazare, social activist against the Lokpal Bill.
Shri Ramkishun has also tabled a notice of Adjournment Motion on reported flood situation in eastern Uttar Pradesh and Bihar due to heavy rains.
The matters, though important enough, do not warrant interruption of business of the House for the day.
I have, therefore, disallowed the notices of Adjournment Motion.
OBSERVATION RE: NOTICES OF SUSPENSION OF QUESTION HOUR
MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I have received notices of suspension of Question Hour from Sarvashri Gurudas Dasgupta, Basu Deb Acharia, Smt. Sushma Swaraj and Shri Shailendra Kumar regarding reported fast unto death by Shri Anna Hazare.
Shri Sharad Yadav has also tabled a notice of suspension of Question Hour regarding corruption in the country.
There is no provision in the Rules of Procedure under which Members may make a demand for suspension of Question Hour. I have, therefore, disallowed the notices of suspension of Question Hour.
However, I am allowing these Members to very briefly touch upon the subject and then the Question Hour will run.
Shrimati Sushma Swaraj.
THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF WATER RESOURCES (SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL): Madam Speaker, the Question Hour should go on. After 12 o’clock, we are even prepared for a discussion on any matter they want. We can take up the discussion immediately at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) On Shri Anna Hazare, let the discussion start at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) Will it be only Shrimati Sushma Swaraj? There are so many others who want to speak. … (Interruptions) It will not be only her. … (Interruptions) What happens is that they make their point and then disrupt the House. … (Interruptions) Not only the Leader of Opposition, there are other hon. Members who have given notices and all of them would like to speak. … (Interruptions) अकेले अगर ये हो, तभी बात मान ले, अकेले नहीं होंगे, सभी होंगे. इस पर सभी बात करेंगे...(व्यवधान)
श्री शैलेन्द्र कुमार (कोशाम्बी): महोदया, बड़ा गंभीर मामला है इस पर हमने ऐडजरनमेंट मोशन का नोतिसे दिया है ...(व्यवधान)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: ठीक है, आप बैठीये....(व्यवधान)
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(इस समय श्री शैलेन्द्र कुमार पटल के सामने आकर खड़े हो गए )
अध्यक्ष महोदया:इसे निचे रखिये. इसे मत दिखाइये.
SHRI PAWN KUMAR BANSAL: Everybody has the right to speak and that may be done at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) At 12 o’clock we can have a detailed discussion. … (Interruptions) We are prepared for a discussion at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) My submission is only one. … (Interruptions) Let me make my submission. … (Interruptions) We respect that the Leader of Opposition has to make a point. … (Interruptions) But it is not only she … (Interruptions) There are other hon. Members who have given notices. … (Interruptions) Once they speak, they interrupt the House. … (Interruptions) Therefore, I say that the Government is prepared for a full-fledged discussion at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) We are prepared for a discussion at 12 o’clcok. … (Interruptions) If they have not got my point, I am saying we are prepared for a discussion at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) I again say that the Government is prepared for a discussion at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) Let all the hon. Members speak. … (Interruptions) All the hon. Members can speak. … (Interruptions) You will also speak and he will also speak. … (Interruptions)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: आप पीछे जाइए
...(व्यवधान)
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(इस समय श्री शैलेन्द्र कुमार अपने स्थान पर चले गए )
MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please take your seats.
… (Interruptions)
MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members please take your seats.
… (Interruptions)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
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MADAM SPEAKER: Please take your seats.
… (Interruptions)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: सुषमा जी आप बोलिए
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा): कैसे बोलू, पहले हाउस में व्यवस्था तो कायम हो
...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go in record.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
अध्यक्ष महोदया:आप बोलिए
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा): कैसे बोलू, पहले हाउस को तो शांत करे ...(व्यवधान)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: कृपया सब बैठ जाईये
श्री शैलेन्द्र कुमार (कोशाम्बी): इस पर चर्चा करना आवयक है ...(व्यवधान)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: प्रश्न काल सस्पेंड नहीं होगा. प्रश्न काल चलेगा ...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: All these things will not go in record.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: After the Leader of the Opposition, let the Minister of Home Affairs speak. But, then, they should have the guts and courage to listen to others also. That is what I am saying. आप कहिये की उनके बाद बोलेंगे और शोर नहीं करेंगे ...(व्यवधान) मान लिया ...(व्यवधान) और उसके बाद होम मिनिस्टर बोलेंगे ...(व्यवधान)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: आप बैठ जाये ...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go in record.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा):आप व्यवस्था बनाए तो मैं बोलू, जब व्यवस्था नहीं है तो क्या बोलू ...(व्यवधान)
SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: First, the Leader of the Opposition will speak and then the Minister of Home Affairs will speak. … (Interruptions)
SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ (VIDISHA): Madam, you please put the House in order and then only I will speak. … (Interruptions)
MADAM SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to meet again at 11.30 a.m.
1107 hours
The Lok Sabha then adjourned till thirty minutes past Eleven of the Clock.
1130 hours
The Lok Sabha re-assembled at thirty minutes past Eleven of the Clock.
( Madam Speaker in the Chair)
MADAM SPEAKER: Shrimati Sushma Swaraj to speak now.
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा): अध्यक्ष जी
...(व्यवधान)
श्री शैलेन्द्र कुमार (कोशाम्बी):अध्यक्ष जी, पहले अपोजिसन लीडर फिर माननीय मुलायम सिंह जी बोलेंगे, उसके बाद और लोग बोलेंगे और सबसे बाद में गृह मंत्री बोलेंगे ...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
MADAM SPEAKER: Let the House run.
… (Interruptions)
अध्यक्ष महोदया:आप बैठ जाईये. माननिय गुरुदास दासगुप्त जी और माननिय बासुदेव आचार्य जी का नाम है. आप लोग बैठ जाइए ...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shrimati Sushma Swaraj says.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
MADAM SPEAKER: Let the House run.
… (Interruptions)
MADAM SPEAKER: Let us run the House.
(Interruptions)
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा):महोदया मैं कैसे बोलू, व्यवस्था तो कीजिये. ...(व्यवधान) अध्यक्ष जी, जो अलोकतांत्रिक रवैया सरकार सदन के बाहर अख्तियार कर रही है, वही सदन के अन्दर अपना रही है. ...(व्यवधान) अध्यक्ष जी, आप व्यवस्था तो बनाइये, तभी तो बोलू, कैसे बोलू...जोर से बोलू.
MADAM SPEAKER: Please allow the House to run.
… (Interruptions)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: आप लोग बैठ जाईये
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा): ये लोग jaanbujh कर aisa कर rahe है. ...(व्यवधान) जो अलोकतांत्रिक रवैया सरकार सदन के बाहर अख्तियार कर रही है, वही सदन के अन्दर अपना रही है. yah pahli baar hua है की speaker की ruling को sansdiya मंत्री nakaar rahe है. ...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shrimati Sushma Swaraj says.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shrimati Sushma Swaraj says.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
MADAM SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to meet again at 1200 hours.
1134 hours
The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Twelve of the Clock.
Comment: Friday, March 10, 2000/Phalguna 20, 1921 (Saka).
http://164.100.47.132/newdebate/15/8/16082011/11To12am.pdf
3713
(a1/1100/rbn/rps)
1100 hours
(Madam Speaker in the Chair)
OBSERVATION RE: NOTICES OF ADJOURNMENT MOTION
MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I have received notices of Adjournment Motion from Sarvashri Yogi Aditya Nath and Shailendra Kumar regarding reported agitation by Shri Anna Hazare, social activist against the Lokpal Bill.
Shri Ramkishun has also tabled a notice of Adjournment Motion on reported flood situation in eastern Uttar Pradesh and Bihar due to heavy rains.
The matters, though important enough, do not warrant interruption of business of the House for the day.
I have, therefore, disallowed the notices of Adjournment Motion.
OBSERVATION RE: NOTICES OF SUSPENSION OF QUESTION HOUR
MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I have received notices of suspension of Question Hour from Sarvashri Gurudas Dasgupta, Basu Deb Acharia, Smt. Sushma Swaraj and Shri Shailendra Kumar regarding reported fast unto death by Shri Anna Hazare.
Shri Sharad Yadav has also tabled a notice of suspension of Question Hour regarding corruption in the country.
There is no provision in the Rules of Procedure under which Members may make a demand for suspension of Question Hour. I have, therefore, disallowed the notices of suspension of Question Hour.
However, I am allowing these Members to very briefly touch upon the subject and then the Question Hour will run.
Shrimati Sushma Swaraj.
THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS AND MINISTER OF WATER RESOURCES (SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL): Madam Speaker, the Question Hour should go on. After 12 o’clock, we are even prepared for a discussion on any matter they want. We can take up the discussion immediately at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) On Shri Anna Hazare, let the discussion start at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) Will it be only Shrimati Sushma Swaraj? There are so many others who want to speak. … (Interruptions) It will not be only her. … (Interruptions) What happens is that they make their point and then disrupt the House. … (Interruptions) Not only the Leader of Opposition, there are other hon. Members who have given notices and all of them would like to speak. … (Interruptions) अकेले अगर ये हो, तभी बात मान ले, अकेले नहीं होंगे, सभी होंगे. इस पर सभी बात करेंगे...(व्यवधान)
श्री शैलेन्द्र कुमार (कोशाम्बी): महोदया, बड़ा गंभीर मामला है इस पर हमने ऐडजरनमेंट मोशन का नोतिसे दिया है ...(व्यवधान)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: ठीक है, आप बैठीये....(व्यवधान)
1102 बजे
(इस समय श्री शैलेन्द्र कुमार पटल के सामने आकर खड़े हो गए )
अध्यक्ष महोदया:इसे निचे रखिये. इसे मत दिखाइये.
SHRI PAWN KUMAR BANSAL: Everybody has the right to speak and that may be done at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) At 12 o’clock we can have a detailed discussion. … (Interruptions) We are prepared for a discussion at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) My submission is only one. … (Interruptions) Let me make my submission. … (Interruptions) We respect that the Leader of Opposition has to make a point. … (Interruptions) But it is not only she … (Interruptions) There are other hon. Members who have given notices. … (Interruptions) Once they speak, they interrupt the House. … (Interruptions) Therefore, I say that the Government is prepared for a full-fledged discussion at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) We are prepared for a discussion at 12 o’clcok. … (Interruptions) If they have not got my point, I am saying we are prepared for a discussion at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) I again say that the Government is prepared for a discussion at 12 o’clock. … (Interruptions) Let all the hon. Members speak. … (Interruptions) All the hon. Members can speak. … (Interruptions) You will also speak and he will also speak. … (Interruptions)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: आप पीछे जाइए
...(व्यवधान)
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(इस समय श्री शैलेन्द्र कुमार अपने स्थान पर चले गए )
MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members, please take your seats.
… (Interruptions)
MADAM SPEAKER: Hon. Members please take your seats.
… (Interruptions)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
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MADAM SPEAKER: Please take your seats.
… (Interruptions)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: सुषमा जी आप बोलिए
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा): कैसे बोलू, पहले हाउस में व्यवस्था तो कायम हो
...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go in record.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
अध्यक्ष महोदया:आप बोलिए
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा): कैसे बोलू, पहले हाउस को तो शांत करे ...(व्यवधान)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: कृपया सब बैठ जाईये
श्री शैलेन्द्र कुमार (कोशाम्बी): इस पर चर्चा करना आवयक है ...(व्यवधान)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: प्रश्न काल सस्पेंड नहीं होगा. प्रश्न काल चलेगा ...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: All these things will not go in record.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: After the Leader of the Opposition, let the Minister of Home Affairs speak. But, then, they should have the guts and courage to listen to others also. That is what I am saying. आप कहिये की उनके बाद बोलेंगे और शोर नहीं करेंगे ...(व्यवधान) मान लिया ...(व्यवधान) और उसके बाद होम मिनिस्टर बोलेंगे ...(व्यवधान)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: आप बैठ जाये ...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go in record.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा):आप व्यवस्था बनाए तो मैं बोलू, जब व्यवस्था नहीं है तो क्या बोलू ...(व्यवधान)
SHRI PAWAN KUMAR BANSAL: First, the Leader of the Opposition will speak and then the Minister of Home Affairs will speak. … (Interruptions)
SHRIMATI SUSHMA SWARAJ (VIDISHA): Madam, you please put the House in order and then only I will speak. … (Interruptions)
MADAM SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to meet again at 11.30 a.m.
1107 hours
The Lok Sabha then adjourned till thirty minutes past Eleven of the Clock.
1130 hours
The Lok Sabha re-assembled at thirty minutes past Eleven of the Clock.
( Madam Speaker in the Chair)
MADAM SPEAKER: Shrimati Sushma Swaraj to speak now.
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा): अध्यक्ष जी
...(व्यवधान)
श्री शैलेन्द्र कुमार (कोशाम्बी):अध्यक्ष जी, पहले अपोजिसन लीडर फिर माननीय मुलायम सिंह जी बोलेंगे, उसके बाद और लोग बोलेंगे और सबसे बाद में गृह मंत्री बोलेंगे ...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
MADAM SPEAKER: Let the House run.
… (Interruptions)
अध्यक्ष महोदया:आप बैठ जाईये. माननिय गुरुदास दासगुप्त जी और माननिय बासुदेव आचार्य जी का नाम है. आप लोग बैठ जाइए ...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shrimati Sushma Swaraj says.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
MADAM SPEAKER: Let the House run.
… (Interruptions)
MADAM SPEAKER: Let us run the House.
(Interruptions)
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा):महोदया मैं कैसे बोलू, व्यवस्था तो कीजिये. ...(व्यवधान) अध्यक्ष जी, जो अलोकतांत्रिक रवैया सरकार सदन के बाहर अख्तियार कर रही है, वही सदन के अन्दर अपना रही है. ...(व्यवधान) अध्यक्ष जी, आप व्यवस्था तो बनाइये, तभी तो बोलू, कैसे बोलू...जोर से बोलू.
MADAM SPEAKER: Please allow the House to run.
… (Interruptions)
अध्यक्ष महोदया: आप लोग बैठ जाईये
श्रीमती सुषमा स्वराज (विदिशा): ये लोग jaanbujh कर aisa कर rahe है. ...(व्यवधान) जो अलोकतांत्रिक रवैया सरकार सदन के बाहर अख्तियार कर रही है, वही सदन के अन्दर अपना रही है. yah pahli baar hua है की speaker की ruling को sansdiya मंत्री nakaar rahe है. ...(व्यवधान)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shrimati Sushma Swaraj says.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
MADAM SPEAKER: Nothing will go on record except what Shrimati Sushma Swaraj says.
(Interruptions) … (Not recorded)
MADAM SPEAKER: The House stands adjourned to meet again at 1200 hours.
1134 hours
The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Twelve of the Clock.
Comment: Friday, March 10, 2000/Phalguna 20, 1921 (Saka).
http://164.100.47.132/newdebate/15/8/16082011/11To12am.pdf
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